tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1271027040083295414.post3053696224368467256..comments2023-11-05T01:58:10.339-07:00Comments on Iron Pyrite: What is 4x5n?The MudSkipper Showhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16358197277926792058noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1271027040083295414.post-20771517689549330182008-07-10T08:37:00.000-07:002008-07-10T08:37:00.000-07:00Ok, Steve, but judging from your last comment on m...Ok, Steve, but judging from your last comment on my blog I've already lost you. Although I did find it amusing that the gist of your explanation was: You're starting to sound like Ray, therefore I won't talk to you. Yet you still talk to Ray. ;-)<BR/><BR/>Perhaps I got busy and let Ray post for me?<BR/><BR/>"All this is fine and dandy, but you need to start making connections to your own deity here, or you are gonna lose me."<BR/><BR/>Honestly, I'm not a fan of these conversations, anyway. Intellectual sparring isn't what brought me to my once-proud knees before the God who created me, which is why I haven't been trying as hard as I should - these conversations always end with agnostic conclusions anyway (which is why I'm not a particularly large fan of guys like Lee Strobel). Of course you won't believe in God until you've met Him, and you (probably) won't meet Him until you've earnestly sought after Him. We both know what happens next: I continue to pray for you, and you continue to laugh histerically and roll your eyes at the thought of me spending hours on end talking to someone who you think isn't there. Oh well, I've read the last chapter and Jesus wins.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14702237042599137338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1271027040083295414.post-22314778090978889512008-07-09T11:04:00.000-07:002008-07-09T11:04:00.000-07:00That is the problem.All this is fine and dandy, bu...That is the problem.<BR/><BR/>All this is fine and dandy, but you need to start making connections to your own deity here, or you are gonna lose me.The MudSkipper Showhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16358197277926792058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1271027040083295414.post-11985870700418959602008-07-09T11:03:00.000-07:002008-07-09T11:03:00.000-07:00I might as well be arguing with Muslim on this top...I might as well be arguing with Muslim on this topic, they would use the same arguments. Funny.The MudSkipper Showhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16358197277926792058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1271027040083295414.post-67645829691837626592008-07-09T11:02:00.000-07:002008-07-09T11:02:00.000-07:00We don't know where energy came from, so Goddidit,...We don't know where energy came from, so Goddidit, right?<BR/><BR/>That is like saying the answer to 4x5n is "42"<BR/>It does not follow.<BR/><BR/>"it might be possible, therefore it's true' - it is you who is arguing from ignorance."<BR/>I said it might be possible, therefor, I don't know, not "Its True."<BR/><BR/>It's really easy to go outside my realm of knowledge on this subject.<BR/>It's possible, therefore we should investigate further and not say, for the moment, that the god of the bible did it.<BR/>Lets try to avoid non-sequiturs shall we.The MudSkipper Showhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16358197277926792058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1271027040083295414.post-37545378535595781512008-07-09T08:56:00.000-07:002008-07-09T08:56:00.000-07:00"Off topic...I love the part of A Hitch Hiker's Gu..."Off topic...I love the part of A Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy where the supercomputer says "42"."<BR/><BR/>I'm afraid I never read/saw it, is it good?Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14702237042599137338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1271027040083295414.post-84025467780101200752008-07-09T08:54:00.000-07:002008-07-09T08:54:00.000-07:00No one has ever witnessed matter come to exist fro...No one has ever witnessed matter come to exist from "nothing" in the truest sense of the word. You mentioned matter popping into existence in vacuums. Two points can and should be made here: 1. To my knowledge this has not actually been OBSERVED, and 2. You've only provided half the information - the matter is coming from ENERGY, not NOTHING, thus even if this had been observed, it would not violate thermodynamics.<BR/><BR/>Now you are suggesting something which has never been observed and saying "it might be possible, therefore it's true" - it is you who is arguing from ignorance.<BR/><BR/>"Oh, and here's one more for you, since you say it was God (lets quit beating around the bush), how do you plan to prove this empirically?"<BR/><BR/>We're not beating around the bush. There are two topics in this debate: Christianity and naturalism. I was discussing naturalism, and now you're changing the subject. It's not against the rules for me to disprove one theory without offering an alternative, is it?<BR/><BR/>"You say it is impossible. How do you know?"<BR/><BR/>Mathematics isn't evidence now? The only way around this dilemma is to suggest that time does not travel at a constant speed, which has also never been observed - and probably never could be, another argument from ignorance.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14702237042599137338noreply@blogger.com